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::{{note}} This isn't necessarily true. House is a Fox developed show, and its lasted for just about six years now.<br />
::{{note}} This isn't necessarily true. House is a Fox developed show, and its lasted for just about six years now.<br />
:::{{note}} Firefly, Dead Like Me, Wonderfalls and Tru Calling are all Fox developed shows, and none of them went beyond 3 years despite the first two having movies. House is the exception rather than the rule.<br />
:::{{note}} Firefly, Dead Like Me, Wonderfalls and Tru Calling are all Fox developed shows, and none of them went beyond 3 years despite the first two having movies. House is the exception rather than the rule.<br />
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| [[Charlie]] will be not end up dating [[Lloyd Collins]] in the new timeline. || none. || {{plus}} He and [[Charlie]] fall in love in the future.<br />
{{plus}} [[Charlie]] cares for [[Hiro]] more than [[Lloyd]].<br />
{{plus}} [[Hiro]] is righting wrongs. [[Sylar]] killing [[Charlie]] led to [[Lloyd]]'s death with the Kill Squad. If they never date this might not happen.<br />
{{minus}} She might have dated him before.<br />
{{note}} This isn't necessarily true. Due to conflict information, [[Saving Charlie]] might not be canon.<br />
{{note}} What conflicting information?<br />
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The Haitian visited Charlie and erased some of her memories. None. + In Seven Minutes to Midnight, she says that she had started only a week before reading the Japanese phrase book she received for her birthday six months earlier. In Six Months Ago, she started using the book right away. Altering her memory may have interfered with Hiro's efforts to save her — even though he bought her a ticket to Japan, her memory of being told to leave was erased.

+ Someone (not necessarily The Haitian, others have been seen to manipulate memories, notably Matt Parkman) must have changed her memories or somehow compelled or convinced her not to tell Hiro of their prior meeting. Hiro must have actually traveled to the past of the "original" timeline, as Ando, who had not traveled back in time saw the picture on the board, showing that past actually did happen. Supporting that, Hiro's trips to the past have always demonstrated that his actions were predestined and affected the "main" timeline (the picture in the Diner, and Adam remembers him). So either her memories were rewritten without Hiro in them, or she was intentionally hiding them from Hiro when he first entered the Diner on his personal timeline.
- Short of Hiro meeting The Haitian in the future, winning his trust and being given a way to prove himself to The Haitian in the past so that he could convince him to go and erase Charlie's memory, there's no way this scenario could work.
- It is possible that Hiro simply remembered Charlie enjoying learning Japanese and went ahead and bought her a Japanese book himself.
- It seems more likely this was a writers discrepancy. It's common when dealing with time travel.
- If somebody from the Company visited Charlie, they would bag and tag her, and she would end just like Matt Neuenberg.
Why would someone erase Charlie's memories, especially those related to Hiro?

Charlie knew of her impending death in the changed time line. She simply did not acknowledge that she already knew Hiro when they "met for the first time". She accepted her death at the hands of Sylar because she was going to die of the blood clot anyway, and Hiro allowed her to experience love before she died. Ando doesn't remember anything differently. (Six Months Ago) + The events of the novel "Saving Charlie" pretty much confirm this theory. Hiro told Charlie about her impending death and the two spent Charlie's last night alive making love before Charlie went in to work, with Hiro waiting until after his past self left to save Charlie in order to "return".
Hiro's time traveling did change the "present", as evidenced by the changed picture from Charlie's birthday. The events of the novel "Saving Charlie" pretty much confirm this theory. Hiro told Charlie about her impending death and the two spent Charlie's last night alive making love before Charlie went in to work. + Hiro does not know what happened in the changed timeline; Charlie could well have known who he was. In fact "Saving Charlie" suggests that Charlie feigned ignorance.
Charlie will be saved in the new timeline. Hiro's time travel is about helping people and righting wrongs. + He helped Peter and Emma.

+ He helped Ando with Kimiko with time travelling.
- She is still dying of a blood clot, regardless of whether he saves he from Sylar.

+ Peter has the ability to heal Hiro. If Hiro saves Charlie and brings her to the current timeline, Peter can just heal her, too.

+ Maybe he will prevent her from getting the blood clot, somehow.

Charlie ends up saving Hiro by acquiring his brain tumor. This tumor is actually the blood clot that she had referred to in Six Months Ago. Charlie talks about the blood clot in Six Months Ago; Hiro's illness is noted as a tumor in Tabula Rasa. Several references are made (primarily by Peter) that Hiro might be sent somewhere so he can be saved in Tabula Rasa. + Charlie claimed that she has a blood clot in the brain and Hiro currently has a brain tumor -- it seems unlikely that two characters will both have a life-threatening illness afflicting the brain.
- Medically, a blood clot and a tumor are not the same.

+ This maintains what happened in Six Months Ago with no changes, and prevents any changes to the present timeline due to Charlie surviving.

- The show has implied that the past/future can be changed, and has not used a recursive timeline before.

+ Several mentions have been made that Hiro's uncontrolled teleports might put him in a situation that leads him him being saved. Tabula Rasa 3:18. In this case, his uncontrolled teleport to Peter brings him in contact with Emma, who inspires him to travel back in time to see Charlie.

- Which mentions?

- No one is known to have the power to "transfer" illnesses.

+ Peter's newfound power may come with such a caveat.
- Why would Peter do that to Charlie Andrews, who Hiro loves? It's more like he would do it to himself.
- Such a limitation has not been demonstrated.
- Charlie has enhanced memory, how does this lead to acquistion of brain tumors?
- Hiro considers Charlie to be his Gwen Stacy. He would never allow Charlie even if she could to take his illness from him.

+ Jayma Mays is committed to another show and is unlikely to have a recurring role in Heroes (and thus unlikely to be saved).

- Firstly, it is possible, though difficult to do two shows (Mila Kunis in "Family Guy" and "The 70's Show"). Secondly, Glee is a Fox developed show, and non animated Fox shows have limited shelf lives.
This isn't necessarily true. House is a Fox developed show, and its lasted for just about six years now.
Firefly, Dead Like Me, Wonderfalls and Tru Calling are all Fox developed shows, and none of them went beyond 3 years despite the first two having movies. House is the exception rather than the rule.
Charlie will be not end up dating Lloyd Collins in the new timeline. none. + He and Charlie fall in love in the future.

+ Charlie cares for Hiro more than Lloyd.
+ Hiro is righting wrongs. Sylar killing Charlie led to Lloyd's death with the Kill Squad. If they never date this might not happen.
- She might have dated him before.
This isn't necessarily true. Due to conflict information, Saving Charlie might not be canon.
What conflicting information?


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