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| Linderman was plotting world domination. ||None. || {{plus}} Linderman wanted Nathan to take on the presidency. The president would be a perfect instrument for world domination.<br /> | | Linderman was plotting world domination. ||None. || {{plus}} Linderman wanted Nathan to take on the presidency. The president would be a perfect instrument for world domination.<br /> | ||
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:{{Minus}} Lots of characters have powers, [[The Haitian]] and [[Hiro]], for instance. Doesn't make them related. <br /> | :{{Minus}} Lots of characters have powers, [[The Haitian]] and [[Hiro]], for instance. Doesn't make them related. <br /> | ||
{{minus}} [[Mr. Petrelli]] was at his house with [[Angela]] and [[Nathan]] when [[Linderman]] arrived to apologize.<br /> | {{minus}} [[Mr. Petrelli]] was at his house with [[Angela]] and [[Nathan]] when [[Linderman]] arrived to apologize.<br /> | ||
:{{ | :{{plus}} This does not mean [[Angela Petrelli]] didn't have an affair with [[Linderman]].<br /> | ||
{{plus}} Linderman and Angela were both in the Group of 12, and she did have a relationship with [[Kaito Nakamura]].<br /> | {{plus}} Linderman and Angela were both in the Group of 12, and she did have a relationship with [[Kaito Nakamura]].<br /> | ||
:{{note}} At this point it is not known for sure that Angela ever shared a relationship with Kaito.<br /> | :{{note}} At this point it is not known for sure that Angela ever shared a relationship with Kaito.<br /> | ||
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| Linderman wanted Nathan to become President of the United States so that when people having evolutionary enhancements becomes mainstream knowledge, the major power will not be inclined to capture, kill, or otherwise control them. ||None.|| {{plus}} Linderman had a lot of interest in people with abilities.<br /> | | Linderman wanted Nathan to become the President of the United States so that when people having evolutionary enhancements becomes mainstream knowledge, the major power will not be inclined to capture, kill, or otherwise control them. ||None.|| {{plus}} Linderman had a lot of interest in people with abilities.<br /> | ||
{{plus}} On several occasions, Nathan has spoken on how his natural reaction to people with abilities (were he not one of them) would be to lock them up and study them. He is against going public about the evolution of powers for fear of this very reaction.<br /> | {{plus}} On several occasions, Nathan has spoken on how his natural reaction to people with abilities (were he not one of them) would be to lock them up and study them. He is against going public about the evolution of powers for fear of this very reaction.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} If this was Linderman's plan, then it seems Nathan did the exact opposite (''[[Five Years Gone]]'').<br /> | {{minus}} If this was Linderman's plan, then it seems Nathan did the exact opposite (''[[Five Years Gone]]'').<br /> | ||
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:::{{plus}} This would mean that Nathan did in fact "turn;" he didn't start out bad. In the Dark Future, Linderman is dead (probably by DL), so he wouldn't be there to keep Nathan in check.<br /> | :::{{plus}} This would mean that Nathan did in fact "turn;" he didn't start out bad. In the Dark Future, Linderman is dead (probably by DL), so he wouldn't be there to keep Nathan in check.<br /> | ||
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| In the [[Dark Future]], Linderman died in [[the explosion]]. || [[Micah]] died in the explosion in this dark future. (''[[Five Years Gone]]'')<br /> | | In the [[Dark Future]], Linderman died in [[the explosion]]. || [[Micah]] died in the explosion in this dark future. (''[[Five Years Gone]]'')<br />A year after the explosion, the [[Linderman Act]] is passed. (''[[Five Years Gone]]'') || {{plus}} Linderman was presumably in [[New York]] with Micah to oversee his [[technopathy|tampering]] with the [[election]].<br /> | ||
A year after the explosion, the [[Linderman Act]] is passed. (''[[Five Years Gone]]'') | |||
| {{plus}} Linderman was presumably in [[New York]] with Micah to oversee his [[technopathy|tampering]] with the [[election]].<br /> | |||
{{plus}} The Linderman Act may have been passed as a memorial.<br /> | {{plus}} The Linderman Act may have been passed as a memorial.<br /> | ||
{{plus}} There is no sign of Linderman in 2011.<br /> | {{plus}} There is no sign of Linderman in 2011.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} It is possible Linderman died in the dark future the same way he has died currently. | {{minus}} It is possible Linderman died in the dark future the same way he has died currently. The Linderman Act may have been passed because he was brutally murdered by an evolved human.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} Although Linderman was murdered by an evolved human, he also was one.<br /> | {{minus}} Although Linderman was murdered by an evolved human, he also was one.<br /> | ||
:{{plus}} It is possible that he kept his ability a secret.<br /> | :{{plus}} It is possible that he kept his ability a secret.<br /> | ||
::{{minus}} And anybody in a position of power being murdered would invoke a response; Linderman's power couldn't heal himself, only others.<br /> | ::{{minus}} And anybody in a position of power being murdered would invoke a response; Linderman's power couldn't heal himself, only others.<br /> | ||
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| [[Linderman]]'s power is energy transfer, and can use this power like an energy vampire (like Sauron from ''X-Men'') or in reverse (as in healing). ||He healed (gave life energy) to a plant in ''[[.07%]]''.<br /> | | [[Linderman]]'s power is energy transfer, and can use this power like an energy vampire (like Sauron from ''X-Men'') or in reverse (as in healing). || He healed (gave life energy) to a plant in ''[[.07%]]''.<br />The episode title when we first see [[Linderman]] (McDowell) is ''[[Parasite]]'', which may be foreshadowing for [[Linderman]]'s character instead of merely a [[Sylar]] reference. || {{plus}} Simply healing is far too noble of a power for a mob boss, especially given his past dealings.<br /> | ||
The episode title when we first see [[Linderman]] (McDowell) is ''[[Parasite]]'', which may be foreshadowing for [[Linderman]]'s character instead of merely a [[Sylar]] reference. | |||
| {{plus}} Simply healing is far too noble of a power for a mob boss, especially given his past dealings.<br /> | |||
:{{minus}} His occupation should not matter, as [[evolved humans]] are born with their abilities, rather than choose them.<br /> | :{{minus}} His occupation should not matter, as [[evolved humans]] are born with their abilities, rather than choose them.<br /> | ||
{{plus}} Perhaps [[Linderman]] (possibly in conjunction with [[Angela Petrelli]]'s power, whatever that may be) intended on using the bomb as a source of energy to absorb (either the direct bomb energy or the resulting released life energy).<br /> | {{plus}} Perhaps [[Linderman]] (possibly in conjunction with [[Angela Petrelli]]'s power, whatever that may be) intended on using the bomb as a source of energy to absorb (either the direct bomb energy or the resulting released life energy).<br /> | ||
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| Mr. [[Linderman]] was involved in bringing evolved humans together in order to create offspring who have powers as well. || Mr. Linderman stated that he started [[Niki]] and [[D.L.]]'s relationship. He further stated that he was the reason [[Micah]] was born. (''[[Landslide]]'') || {{plus}} Linderman got [[Nathan]] and [[Niki]] together. (''[[Collision]]'')<br /> | | Mr. [[Linderman]] was involved in bringing evolved humans together in order to create offspring who have powers as well. || Mr. Linderman stated that he started [[Niki]] and [[D.L.]]'s relationship. He further stated that he was the reason [[Micah]] was born. (''[[Landslide]]'') || {{plus}} Linderman got [[Nathan]] and [[Niki]] together. (''[[Collision]]'')<br /> | ||
:{{minus}} Bringing Niki and Nathan together was to create a blackmail situation to exploit Nathan after he had won the election, not in an attempt to force an offspring of two mutated individuals (''[[Hiros]]'')<br /> | |||
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| [[Daniel Linderman]]'s intention was to heal the world by making [[evolved humans]] dominant over it. The [[explosion]] was not meant to unite mankind after all, but merely open the door to the establishment of this new power structure. || [[Bob]] explains that [[Adam Monroe]]'s vision is of a world in which humanity has been "punished" with holocausts and plagues, and evolved humans have gained power. Linderman was Adam's disciple. (''[[Episode:Out of Time|Out of Time]]'') || {{plus}} The aforementioned scene from ''[[Episode:Out of Time|Out of Time]]'' directly associates Linderman's plan with Adam's goal. [[Nathan Petrelli]] explicitly notes the connection.<br /> | | [[Daniel Linderman]]'s intention was to heal the world by making [[evolved humans]] dominant over it. The [[explosion]] was not meant to unite mankind after all, but merely open the door to the establishment of this new power structure. || [[Bob]] explains that [[Adam Monroe]]'s vision is of a world in which humanity has been "punished" with holocausts and plagues, and evolved humans have gained power. Linderman was Adam's disciple. (''[[Episode:Out of Time|Out of Time]]'') || {{plus}} The aforementioned scene from ''[[Episode:Out of Time|Out of Time]]'' directly associates Linderman's plan with Adam's goal. [[Nathan Petrelli]] explicitly notes the connection.<br /> | ||
{{plus}} Linderman intended for the explosion to make Nathan a very popular political figure, "our strength in dark times." This was to lead to him ultimately becoming the President, and may have been Linderman's only real concern. With an evolved human in control of the world's most powerful nation, and himself as that evolved human's puppetmaster, Linderman would have laid down the foundations for just such a shift in power.<br /> | {{plus}} Linderman intended for the explosion to make Nathan a very popular political figure, "our strength in dark times." This was to lead to him ultimately becoming the President, and may have been Linderman's only real concern. With an evolved human in control of the world's most powerful nation, and himself as that evolved human's puppetmaster, Linderman would have laid down the foundations for just such a shift in power.<br /> | ||
{{minus}}The [[Dark Future]] showed what would result if the heroes failed to prevent the explosion, and the world therein was the exact opposite of what this theory suggests to have been Daniel Linderman's intention: Evolved humans were not in power, but instead were victims of witchhunts by a very pro-human government.<br /> | {{minus}} The [[Dark Future]] showed what would result if the heroes failed to prevent the explosion, and the world therein was the exact opposite of what this theory suggests to have been Daniel Linderman's intention: Evolved humans were not in power, but instead were victims of witchhunts by a very pro-human government.<br /> | ||
:{{plus}}The Dark Future was actually [[Sylar (future)|Sylar]]'s creation more than Linderman's, as he had murdered and was impersonating Nathan, and he confessed to having a very personal motive for ordering the anti-superhuman witchhunts: His need to "be special" drove him to want to "eliminate the competition" by terminating other evolved humans, leaving himself as the only one in his league. In contrast, Adam Monroe has been said to support unity among evolved humans.<br /> | :{{plus}}The Dark Future was actually [[Sylar (future)|Sylar]]'s creation more than Linderman's, as he had murdered and was impersonating Nathan, and he confessed to having a very personal motive for ordering the anti-superhuman witchhunts: His need to "be special" drove him to want to "eliminate the competition" by terminating other evolved humans, leaving himself as the only one in his league. In contrast, Adam Monroe has been said to support unity among evolved humans.<br /> | ||
{{note}} Sylar claimed Nathan Petrelli had already turned against evolved humans before he began impersonating him. (''[[Episode:Five Years Gone|Five Years Gone]]'')<br /> | {{note}} Sylar claimed Nathan Petrelli had already turned against evolved humans before he began impersonating him. (''[[Episode:Five Years Gone|Five Years Gone]]'')<br /> | ||
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| [[Linderman]] lived in Britain for some part of his life.|| || {{plus}} Linderman was a born American so he must have acquired his accent during the later part of his life.<br /> | | [[Linderman]] lived in Britain for some part of his life.|| || {{plus}} Linderman was a born American so he must have acquired his accent during the later part of his life.<br /> | ||
:{{note}} His British accent may just be because he is portrayed by a [[Malcolm McDowell|British actor]] - the show is allowed some extent of artistic license, isn't it?<br /> | :{{note}} His British accent may just be because he is portrayed by a [[Malcolm McDowell|British actor]] - the show is allowed some extent of artistic license, isn't it?<br /> | ||
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| [[Linderman]] is still alive. || None. || {{plus}} It is not out of the realm of speculation that Linderman has procured a sample of either [[Claire]] or [[Adam]]'s blood, and had it in case anything were to happen to him.<br /> | | [[Linderman]] is still alive. || None. || {{plus}} It is not out of the realm of speculation that Linderman has procured a sample of either [[Claire]] or [[Adam]]'s blood, and had it in case anything were to happen to him.<br /> |
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Linderman was plotting world domination. | None. | + Linderman wanted Nathan to take on the presidency. The president would be a perfect instrument for world domination. - Linderman stated that his aims are to heal the world.
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Linderman was Claude's father. | None. | + Both characters have British accents.
- Their accents are completely different, Linderman's is from the South, Claude has a Lancashire accent.
- Linderman is the head of the organization and that same organization tried to kill Claude.
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Linderman was Peter Petrelli's birth father. | None. | + Linderman hints at involvement in past evolved human events as does Angela Petrelli.
+ Both characters have abilities.
- Mr. Petrelli was at his house with Angela and Nathan when Linderman arrived to apologize.
+ Linderman and Angela were both in the Group of 12, and she did have a relationship with Kaito Nakamura.
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Linderman wanted Nathan to become the President of the United States so that when people having evolutionary enhancements becomes mainstream knowledge, the major power will not be inclined to capture, kill, or otherwise control them. | None. | + Linderman had a lot of interest in people with abilities. + On several occasions, Nathan has spoken on how his natural reaction to people with abilities (were he not one of them) would be to lock them up and study them. He is against going public about the evolution of powers for fear of this very reaction.
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In the Dark Future, Linderman died in the explosion. | Micah died in the explosion in this dark future. (Five Years Gone) A year after the explosion, the Linderman Act is passed. (Five Years Gone) |
+ Linderman was presumably in New York with Micah to oversee his tampering with the election. + The Linderman Act may have been passed as a memorial.
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Linderman's power is energy transfer, and can use this power like an energy vampire (like Sauron from X-Men) or in reverse (as in healing). | He healed (gave life energy) to a plant in .07%. The episode title when we first see Linderman (McDowell) is Parasite, which may be foreshadowing for Linderman's character instead of merely a Sylar reference. |
+ Simply healing is far too noble of a power for a mob boss, especially given his past dealings.
+ Perhaps Linderman (possibly in conjunction with Angela Petrelli's power, whatever that may be) intended on using the bomb as a source of energy to absorb (either the direct bomb energy or the resulting released life energy).
- Healing is a matter of multiplying cells. There is no such thing as "life energy." |
Linderman's power could only heal physical ailments, such as wounds, cancers or dehydration. He is incapable of using his powers to cure illnesses caused by bacteria or viruses, presumably because this would require the death of microscopic life. | Linderman heals Mr. Petrelli after being shot. (War Buddies, Part 2) Linderman used his power to cure his mother's cancer. (War Buddies, Part 3) |
+ If Linderman were able to cure viruses with his power, The Company would not need Mohinder to cure Molly Walker.
- If Linderman exposed himself to the virus, he might not be able to cure himself. |
Mr. Linderman was involved in bringing evolved humans together in order to create offspring who have powers as well. | Mr. Linderman stated that he started Niki and D.L.'s relationship. He further stated that he was the reason Micah was born. (Landslide) | + Linderman got Nathan and Niki together. (Collision)
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Daniel Linderman's intention was to heal the world by making evolved humans dominant over it. The explosion was not meant to unite mankind after all, but merely open the door to the establishment of this new power structure. | Bob explains that Adam Monroe's vision is of a world in which humanity has been "punished" with holocausts and plagues, and evolved humans have gained power. Linderman was Adam's disciple. (Out of Time) | + The aforementioned scene from Out of Time directly associates Linderman's plan with Adam's goal. Nathan Petrelli explicitly notes the connection. + Linderman intended for the explosion to make Nathan a very popular political figure, "our strength in dark times." This was to lead to him ultimately becoming the President, and may have been Linderman's only real concern. With an evolved human in control of the world's most powerful nation, and himself as that evolved human's puppetmaster, Linderman would have laid down the foundations for just such a shift in power.
• Sylar claimed Nathan Petrelli had already turned against evolved humans before he began impersonating him. (Five Years Gone)
- Several characters, including Daniel Linderman himself, Angela Petrelli, and Candice Willmer, all speak of the explosion as though its healing the world would happen in the form of bringing people together and putting an end to hostility and violence, totally contradicting this notion of "punishing humanity with holocausts and plagues."
- Linderman and Monroe had a falling out. Monroe was imprisoned by the entire company because he wanted to "cleanse the world" to start over. Linderman could have been duped by Monroe just as Peter was and came to a realization that it was not his true plan to unite and heal, but rather to destroy. |
Linderman was the son or grandson of Adam Monroe. | Linderman is mentioned to be Monroe's "disciple." (Out of Time) | + Both have British accents.
+ Monroe's near-immortality makes it easily plausible.
- Linderman's father has been seen in the graphic novels.
+ They both have blond hair. |
Linderman and Adam Monroe had similar ideals originally, but they had a disagreement of some sort. | Adam Monroe is held prisoner for 30 years by the Company. It is heavily implied that Linderman is the dominant figure in the Company up until his death. | + Linderman might have realized Adam wasn't actually interested in healing the world, so much as punishing the world. Linderman considers himself a healer and would not have accepted Adam's petty motivation of revenge. |
Linderman's real name is William. | + In Landslide, after seeing Niki and D.L. enter the room, he greets her, and she returns with "Bill." + The clip shown in the Heroes Premiere clip show was obviously reshot. | |
Linderman lived in Britain for some part of his life. | + Linderman was a born American so he must have acquired his accent during the later part of his life.
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Linderman is still alive. | None. | + It is not out of the realm of speculation that Linderman has procured a sample of either Claire or Adam's blood, and had it in case anything were to happen to him.
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Linderman is always going to be involved in the plot. | Even after dying, he still continues to appear. | - He was only an illusion created by Maury. - He wasn't directly involved in the Shanti virus.
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Linderman was impotent. | None. | + He wasn't married and he had no children. Almost each one from the group of twelve had a family. + He had a great influence, it's strange for such a powerful man to have no heirs. |
Linderman's middle name is William. | None. | + In Landslide, after seeing Niki and D.L. enter the room, he greets her, and she returns with "Bill".
+ The clip shown in the Heroes Premiere clip show was obviously reshot. |
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