Talk:Alejandro's ability

Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
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3. Secondary Sources	Episode commentary, Interviews, Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities	Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities	Descriptions
6. Possessor's name	If no non-speculative description is possible
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I'd be careful about saying Alejandro "healed" himself and Maya. He made the tears go away, but there's no reason to believe that either of them was actually harmed by her power.--Hardvice (talk) 20:19, 4 October 2007 (EDT)

• I've been seeing that a lot of places, and I agree. Maya seems distressed by her eye gunk, but never sick or dying...and something tells me Dania's terrific acting is motivated more by the thought of killing innocents and less by the blackness inside her. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:23, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
  • I have a possible name for his ability. Viral Healing? Disease Absorbtion? Viral Absorbtion? Jason Garrick 22:14, 9 October 2007 (EDT)
    • We don't know enough about the powers. We don't know it's viral, we don't know it's a disease, etc. I'm sure we'll learn more about it, they ARE going to see Suresh.--Riddler 22:15, 9 October 2007 (EDT)
      • Forgive my speculation, however, it does not appear that Alejandro heals Maya’s victims, it appears that with concentration Alejandro can take Maya’s "eye gunk" and create anti-bodies that removes the sickness from the people in the surrounding area --Matthew 18:17, 24 October 2007 (EDT)

Maybe we can call it....

"supression"? After all, that's what's he doing: Suppressing Maya's power from working. Or, too be less speculative, "Maya's ability suppresion". --Hero!^(talk)_(contribs) 11:37, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

• Bump. --Hero!^(talk)_(contribs) 23:51, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
• It's easier just to call it "Alejandro's ability" for now, until we get further details. It's never indicated that supressing is what he does; he seems to be both immune to Maya's ability and able to absorb it into himself somehow. That's not supression. The name is fine as is for now. -- Paronine 23:54, October 31 2007 (EDT)
  • Well said. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:56, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

In light of recent events...

Namely Alejandro dying, I doubt we are going to see many more examples of this ability. Should we consider actually naming it, or just stick with "Alejandro's ability"? -- Lulu (talk)

• I'd stick with Alejandro's ability for now.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:43, 27 November 2007 (EST)
  • Agree. We haven't named it because we don't know enough about how it works or what it would be called. If it doesn't show up again, we won't know anything more. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:07, 27 November 2007 (EST)
    • Although, hasn't Maya learned to use "Alejandro's ability" per "Truth & Consequences"? PaulP 13:22, 29 November 2007 (EST)

An evolutionary human ability?

I think we should question if Alejandro actually has an ability in light of the recent episode. It appears to me that she just has the ability to calm down his sister, but she later learned how to control her own emotions. --Pinkkeith 10:14, 27 November 2007 (EST)

• Although that could be an option, I think the combined facts that a/Even when not actively calming Maya, Alejandro is apparently immune to the effect, and b/When he does calm her, he seems to absorb the tears into himself (they appear in his eyes as they vanish from hers, before vanishing entirely), both indicate that he was indeed doing something besides simply calming her. --Maelwys 11:08, 27 November 2007 (EST)
  • Agreed. If anything, Maya's ability to stop her power herself opens the possibility that they both had the same power, but each only really understood half of it. But since Alejandro is immune, he has some sort of power, even if it's just the power to be immune to his sister's power.--Hardvice (talk) 13:38, 27 November 2007 (EST)
    • Even if she was somehow being uncounsciously triggered to undo the effects, and it only appeared to be him undoing it; he still has the power. Why? Because in each case, everyone but him turned black when the plague was emitted, then only at curing time did he turn black then back to clear. If he were powerless, he would have followed the same progression as everyone else did, and as Sylar did when she reversed it on him. Alejandro was different and unique, and did have the power to counteract her power. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 11/29/2007 13:44 (EST)

Alejandro's anti-plague ability

• Perhaps we could call it "Plague negation", to link with Plague excretion?--  Lost Soul   talk  contribs  16:17, 29 November 2007 (EST)
• I prefer plague exorcism, but that's probably way more speculative. --DocM 16:18, 29 November 2007 (EST)
  • I prefer "plague eradication", as that's what you normally say when you are trying to get rid of a plague. "Negation" isn't very specific, and is normally used as a logic/math term. There's also "plague abolition", but "abolition" is normally connotated as with the legal system.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:39, 29 November 2007 (EST)
  • Same here, Volty. --Hero!^(talk)_(contribs) 17:57, 29 November 2007 (EST)
  • How about "invisible Kleenex" or "anastasiakinesis"?--E rowe (talk) 17:45, 29 November 2007 (EST)
    • lol @ "anastasiakinesis". I wonder how many people are picturing the cartoon about the tsarina?--Hardvice (talk) 18:17, 29 November 2007 (EST)
      • That's exactly what I thought of. LOL.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:42, 29 November 2007 (EST)
        • Plauge Supression seems reasonable, doesn't it? --Piemanmoo 19:59, 29 November 2007 (EST)
        • I second the name Plague Supression.--The Empath 20:11, 29 November 2007 (EST)
          • He's not suppressing the plague (despite what I said above), he's eliminating it. --Hero!^(talk)_(contribs) 20:17, 29 November 2007 (EST)
            • To me, Alejandro appears to absorb the plague (his eyes turn black) and eradicate or destroy or whatever with his own body while it is inside of him (he gasps a lot and becomes exhausted).--Ice Vision 20:29, 29 November 2007 (EST)
              • Right, Alejandro absorbs it and eradicates it. The end result is the eradication.--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:43, 30 November 2007 (EST)
• I don't think we have any canon, near-canon, or secondary sources for this power. There's also no common name, and no descriptive name that doesn't involve speculation. I think we're stuck with "Alejandro's ability"...until we hear somebody say something like "I miss him, he would suppress my ability" or "Remember that Alejandro guy? He sure was good at eliminating Maya's plague." Until then, this power name stands rooted firmly in Level 6 of our power naming conventions. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:42, 29 November 2007 (EST)
  • I disagree. We know for sure that he has an ability and that it works in conjuction with Maya's. We don't need to know whether or not his ability works only in conjunction with Maya in order to give it a descriptive name. Even if his ability was only to calm Maya down, he was still eradicating the plague. That is not speculation, we've seen that, and we can note our questions about whether the plague is a seperate entity or only part of Maya's ability under Limits. We can name this power now cause we have canon info. for Maya's ability's name as "plague emission".--MiamiVolts (talk) 14:43, 30 November 2007 (EST)
• No more plague! It's "poison" now, apparently. --Thrashmeister 21:40, 4 December 2007 (EST)

Is there really an ability?

As of "Truth and Consequences" we see that Maya is able to calm herself down. Perhaps all Alejandro could do was calm her down. He does seem to be immune to her "poison", but maybe he doesn't really have a power. I would reccomend keeping the article until we know for certain (which may be never), but perhaps this could go on the page, or theories page. ---- 16:41, 29 November 2007 (EST)

• I'm not sure if this was only from the spoilers, but I recall that it was stated that Alejandro has an ability and that Alejandro and Maya need each other's powers.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:48, 29 November 2007 (EST)
  • When Maya calls down around Alejandro, the camera pans to their hands holding, and stays there for a significant amount of time. Also, when Alejandro negates Maya's ability, you can see that Alejandro's normal eyes turn black (as if the plague is being transferred from Maya to Alejandro), and the effects are gone. I think there are a lot of clues that say that this really is an ability.--Ice Vision 16:56, 29 November 2007 (EST)
  • Sylar guessed that both have powers in The Kindness of Strangers. In any case, his immunity is a power of sorts itself.--Hardvice (talk) 17:40, 29 November 2007 (EST)

Alejandro having the same ability as Maya

It's entirely possible that Alejandro had the exact same ability as Maya as Maya retracts her ability in the same way as Alejandro neutralized hers. They were twins. Caravaggio 23:45, 3 December 2007 (EST)

• I thought of that too, maybe they just learned at different ends of their ability spectrum... like if he were still alive what if he could give off a plague. And the whole holding each other's hands thing could have to do with the Ability Extension that we have an article on. But since we will never know for sure, i vote he has the ability of "Plague Eradication", or something along those lines--.Vault 17:51, 4 December 2007 (EST)