Talk:Ando Masahashi

Is there any proof of Ando being Huggersz69 other than in the original pilot? If not, then it doesn't necessarily apply.

• Niki says it in Hiros after Ando shows up at her house and is being detained by the police. (Admin 11:59, 15 January 2007 (EST))
• You're right. I missed that line before. But I just rechecked, and sure enough.

Ando's Clothes

• Has anyone noticed that Ando always wears a Members Only jacket, although its a different colour in every episode. Not sure if this means anything but its a little strange.
  • I like that all the characters have their own "look". It keeps me in the comic book realm. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:46, 4 March 2007 (EST)

Ando's age

• His nick Hugersz69 could be an idication of age. Most people put their birth year as the final digits of their user names. That would make Ando about 37 years old. -- Cuardin 04:59, 4 February 2007 (EST)
  • Or, given the site he's using it on, it could be ... ah ... something else.--Hardvice (talk) 05:05, 4 February 2007 (EST)
    • Very cute. -- Cuardin 05:10, 4 February 2007 (EST)
      • Actually, I genuinely assumed that was what he was referring to. He certainly doesn't look 37.--Hardvice (talk) 05:19, 4 February 2007 (EST)
        • I've always thought the same. I really just thought it was a good, cheap joke. — MindInTheGutter (talk) 15:28, 4 February 2007 (EST)

Main Character

Ando should be part of the main cast. He is in more episodes then most of the main cast including Simone, Jessica, Niki, D.L. Micah, and Mohidner. --Jason Garrick 19:11, 28 February 2007

• I would agree, however the classificiation of main character vs supporting character is up to those in charge of the show. They classify him as a supporting character so we need to. As Hardvice once said, "This is pretty much the only category that isn't completely arbitrary." (Admin 19:37, 28 February 2007 (EST))
  • More than anything, it's attached to (1) how much money you get per episode, and (2) where your name appears in the credits. Personally, I'd take Ando over Micah / Niki any day, but that's how he signed his contract. --Orne 19:48, 28 February 2007 (EST)
    • James Kyson Lee's getting the better end of it. He's big now that he's been in this show. This last one was the only episode he wasn't in, and he's adds comedic (but meaningful) support to the show.--Baldbobbo 20:24, 28 February 2007 (EST)
      • He's actually a regular now, so should Ando be moved to a main character? --Conspiracy Unit 23:31, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
        • He's in the main cast for Season Two already.--Hardvice (talk) 23:56, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

Power

I know that it is VERY unlikely, but it would be cool if Ando turned up to have a power of some kind. It would just make me feel better for the guy who followed Hiro around and watched him use his powers while Ando did nothing... That said, what should his power be? Dean Harper 22:37, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

• I kinda think it makes the character even stronger that he doesn't have a power. I mean, he survived an attack by Sylar, made it through a very dark future, and dodged Hope's bullet, and even survived some blatant Nissan product placement. :) Check what James Kyson Lee has to say about being a mortal on Heroes in this interview. (He also answers your question about what his power should be.) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:03, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

Where did he get the red bolts from, and why did he zap Hiro

- He could of gotten it from the ability induction serum that Mohinder invented, hence the formula could be used to cause a catastrophic power pandemic? And he zapped Hiro for "betraying" him. - Arkillion

• Hiro betrayed Ando in "Angels and Monsters". Hiro stuck him in the chest with a sword to prove to Knox and Daphne that he was a "badass". --Denali 10:55, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

Ando's name

• You state that "Ando" is a common family name in Japan. If that is true, it is most likely that Ando is his last name in fact. That Hiro calls him "Ando-kun" (I don't recall another character that knows Ando and calls his name) is VERY common in Japan, I mean, calling somebody by his last name is the regular, only very close friends, lovers or relatives call somebody by his first name. Between males is very common to call others 'lastname'-kun, but if Ando is comfortable calling Hiro by his name, I don't know why Hiro does the same... Maybe because "Ando" is shorter than Masahashi.

So, as you know (I think), japanese names start with the family name, so they would be Nakamura Hiro and Ando Masahashi. Check out http://www.makikoitoh.com/journal/the_numerous_japanese_problems_in_heroes for another guy (?) that thinks the same, altough I don't know him.

• Ando is his first name, not his family name. He was saying it's a very common name because he brings these centuries-old scrolls addressed to him, and tries to hide the fact that they're written by his time-traveling friend. Masahashi is his family name.--Bob (talk) 05:11, 10 November 2007 (EST)
• Additionally, they usually (but not always) reverse the names in the spoken Japanese to match the Japanese custom. I don't speak Japanese, but I've caught them saying "Masahashi Ando" and "Nakamura Hiro" more than once.--Hardvice (talk) 05:19, 10 November 2007 (EST)
• Masahashi cannot be a family name in Japanese, and Ando cannot be a given name. I have lived in Japan for 10 years and I can tell you that this is impossible. This error should be edited. It is a bit strange that Hiro refers to Ando by family name but Ando refers to Hiro by given name--normally they would do it the same way. At work and with coworkers they might be more likely to use family names (Nakamura-kun and Ando-kun), whereas if they had a non-work-related friendship they would be more likely to use given names (Hiro-kun and perhaps a shortened "Masa-kun").
  • Remember that Heroes targets mostly American audiences. It is excusable if there were error in naming Japanese characters. Chrisyu357 02:16, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
    • to expand, I think it's prety clear that TPTB intended for his given name to be Ando, not Masahashi, as he is refferenced to as "Ando" --SacValleyDweller (talk) 02:51, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
• Just to add a little gasoline-level-confusion to the fire: Parkman refers to him on the Deveaux Building rooftop as "Mr. Masahashi" when questioning him about Kaito. Ricard Desi 11:27, 15 October 2008 (EDT)

Don't Look Back

Shouldn't Ando's character history for Don't Look Back actually be a part of an article called "Ando Masahashi (explosion future)"? I mean, that Ando exists in a future that no longer exists. Just a thought. --DocM 14:02, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

• Theoretically, yes. I think it would be a bit useless to create this article, but I'm not opposed to it.--Referos 16:25, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
  • I don't see any point. There's no fundamental difference between that Ando and the one from five weeks prior. When we're talking about the explosion future, we're generally talking about the future seen in Five Years Gone, which is really, well, five years in the future. We're not talking about five weeks into the future. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:28, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

Infobox problem?

• Why isn't his date of death showing up, even though it's specified in the edit? Can anyone else see it in his infobox? Stevehim 10:32, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
  • It's supposed to be an actual date (within the world of Heroes which is behind real life) rather than the name of an episode. (Admin 10:34, 14 October 2008 (EDT))

Is he dead?

I doubt that he is even though sources say otherwise! I mean Hiro stabbed someone before and he didn't die! And I don't think Ando will die either. Besides, he is listed in the cast of the next couple of episodes. - Jasonbres 13:33, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

• Hiro definately found a way to bring him back or else he wouldn't have stabbed him in the first place. Or maybe he ain't dead at al; but he'll be back for sure. --Futurepeter 13:49, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
  • I've yet to encounter anyone who believes he's really dead. :P But he is still presumed dead, so until he makes his dramatic return, he should be listed as deceased. --Golden Monkey 16:31, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
    • Agree with Golden Monkey 100%. It's just like listing Arthur Petrelli dead until proven alive. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:41, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
    • Uh, no, he's not presumed dead. Daphne says she's not a killer, but she never said "I'm not up for killing Japanese guys". For all we know, she's talking about their plans with Adam. Who knows, but there's no evidence that Ando's dead, just that he got stabbed, just like what happened with DL, Sylar, Matt, Peter and Nathan at the end of Season One. That's five people, and none of them were listed as deceased. Until it's stated that Ando's dead, he ain't dead in my book. On a related note, James Kyson Lee updated his status on facebook with "you'll have to tune in next week..." when everyone kept asking if he's dead.--Bob (talk) 22:22, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
      • That's cool. They dealt with the stabbing so quickly that there obviously is something else going on...but either way is fine by me. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:45, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
      • I definitely think he's coming back too, but if we're not assuming anything, do we know for a fact that the German is dead? Or what about Claire from the explosion timeline, or Knox from the exposed future? I don't think it was actually stated that any of them were dead either, was it? Stevehim 14:56, 15 October 2008 (EDT)

Ok, how about this, it's actually quite funny, what if Ando has the same ability as Peter, Mimicry of some kind. Maybe it's Future Ando who went back in time, and used Illusion on himself to disguise himself as "Ando". So the Future Ando is dead, and the current Ando is still alive :p But hey, it's just a funny theory :) --Futurepeter 15:06, 15 October 2008 (EDT)