Talk:Enhanced memory

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The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
1. Canon Sources	Episodes
2. Near-canon Sources	Webisodes, Graphic Novels, iStories, Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources	Episode commentary, Interviews, Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities	Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities	Descriptions
6. Possessor's name	If no non-speculative description is possible
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Brain non-removal

• Sylar did not remove Charlie's brain (at least not most of it) according to this picture. What's the word meaning partial decapitation again? This could lend support to the theory that Sylar couldn't take Charlie's power because of the brain clot. --Fcphantom 23:59, 11 December 2006 (EST)
  • You're absolutely right -- I've had a problem with people saying that Sylar automatically absorbed Charlie's power. She did have her skull sliced, and at least part of her brain was removed (encephalectomy), but nothing beyond that was confirmed ... Good point about the aneurysm. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:16, 12 December 2006 (EST)
• I disagree the picture shows she got her Brain Cut Off and Why sylar tends to Remember Eden in the Cell. Only time will tell If Sylar Exhibit more of her powers. And she had a Lisp. Red
• As I look at the picture several times, I can't tell for certain whether the brain was removed or not. The section that looks like it may be the brain still in the skull could very well be the inside of her empty skull, not the brain. Unless we have definitive proof that he did not get her brain, we need to make it clear that it's currently unknown whether her brain was removed or not. (Admin 21:52, 5 January 2007 (EST))
• If I recall correctly Hiro went back in time to rescue Charlie, they went to Vegas were she told him that she had the tumor. Back to the present Ando is still at the roadhouse where he asks what happend to Charlie they said she died from the brain tumor, so Sylar does not have this ability, unless I've forgotten something (Karkadann)
  • You've forgotten a few things. Check out Six Months Ago again--they never went to Vegas. Charlie did tell Hiro that she had a blood clot in her brain "inches away from an aneurysm", but she didn't die from it. Hiro told Ando, "I couldn't save her. I couldn't save Charlie...I failed." Then, in the end of the episode during the recap, Charlie is shown again being killed by Sylar. Also, right before Sylar passes out on Kirby Plaza (How to Stop an Exploding Man), he has a memory of killing Charlie. Had Hiro saved Charlie, or had she died of a blood clot (or tumor), Sylar would not have had that memory. It's worth watching Six Months Ago again--that was a terrific episode! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:03, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Name

Did the producers ever say the name of this power is canon? Heroe 22:52, 8 March 2007 (EST)

• No. "Eidetic memory" is just a really good memory. Personally, I don't think it's such a great name for the power, since lots of humans have eidetic memories--Mozart, for example. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:05, 8 March 2007 (EST)
  • Is there a name the producers used for the power? Heroe 23:09, 8 March 2007 (EST)
    • We could change it to "Enhanced memory", which is a naming convention we've established with Enhanced strength and Enhanced hearing. --Ted C 09:31, 9 March 2007 (EST)
      • I like "enhanced memory". — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:59, 9 March 2007 (EST)
        • Yeah I like that too. I'm for moving it. Heroe 19:18, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Understanding

I don't think we can say that superior understanding is a component of this power. The ability to understand and comprehend things with supernatural speed is Sylar's power. Being able to pick up on Japanese fairly quickly is largely a matter of memory; being able to drive a truck after just reading the manual is not. --Ted C 16:53, 19 March 2007 (EDT)

• Personally, I disagree--I think Charlie comprehended what she learned, and I think (based on Jason Badower's comments) that Sylar did not use intuitive aptitude to drive the truck, but pure enhanced memory. ... But that's just my opinion, and I don't necessarily think it even needs to go into the article. As it currently reads, I think the article implies comprehension. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:13, 19 March 2007 (EDT)

Did Peter tap this power in 'Out of Time'

When he 'met' his mother in the future, and didn't remember her, but started concentrating, like he does when he pulled out TK, TS, etc....I sure thought he tapped into this yet-untapped power. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 11/5/2007 23:59 (EST)

• I personally don't believe he did. I think it was just the rush of memories returning to him. He was remembering a lot of things from his youth, too, which would have been before he acquired the power. In any event we certainly can't add it since it's inconclusive. (Admin 00:03, 6 November 2007 (EST))
  • Purely speculative, but I think she had something to do with it directly. --Riddler 00:05, 6 November 2007 (EST)
  • I actually thought he was using telepathy to read her memories, but it wouldn't explain why he sees her face, so I'm gonna go with Admin on this one. But yes, pure speculation on any involvement of powers...I'd leave it as a rush of memories.--Bob (talk) 00:13, 6 November 2007 (EST)
    • I think we will find out very soon, that the Haitian was involved in stripping Peter's memories (for whatever yet-revealed reason). With that card in play, I don't see how Peter would 'naturally' just get all of his memory back. Either Angela's unknown power was used, or Peter managed to tap into either Charlie or Matts power to get that rush going. Yes, it is speculative, but I wanted to throw it out there to see if others noticed it too in that manner, and so that by bringing it up, perhaps more than just me might be watching out for any possible upcoming Charlie-moves by Peter that might substantiate this notion. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 11/6/2007 14:52 (EST)
      • It had the same noise as telepathy, which could have been used to let Peter tap into his own mind and/or his mother's and retrive some memorys of his mother. If he had Charilie's power he should of remembered a lot more and not just his mother. All the image flashbacks where of Angela. --User:Dave 11/6/2007 20:19 (GMT)
• I beleive that he got part of his memorys back in Out Of Time by inadvertly using regeneration the same way Adam taught him to do in 4 Months Ago.--Iceman 15:35, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Rename

In Heroes: The Official Magazine, an article calls this power "accelerated learning" and "eidetic memory". I'm not sure how canonical the magazine is yet, but it's certaintly higher than the "descriptive name" we have right now. --Hero!^(talk)_(contribs) 17:44, 2 January 2008 (EST)

• Do you know who wrote the article and whether someone in particular was being quoted at the time? (Admin 17:47, 2 January 2008 (EST))
• Rob Francis is the author's name, and no, it wasn't quoting someone. --Hero!^(talk)_(contribs) 18:16, 2 January 2008 (EST)
  • Not in a million years should we rename it with those. No offense. But if you read Saving charlie, I think we should rename it Super Memory. Trust me, you'll totally understand why. She remembers everything! More than just learning. She can remember everything she already learned as a child and everything she learns now. She doesn't play chess because she's afraid that she'll remember good moves and beat people too easily. After you read the book you should reconsider "super". It really shows the exaggeration and the truth of her ability. I don't like eidetic memory because people actually have it but their not as nearly as adapt as their ability as charlie. Jason Garrick 21:55, 2 January 2008 (EST)