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This reads as very confusing to me, but I don't know how to simplify it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:39, 28 September 2007 (EDT)
- It makes sense to me. Maybe if somebody who doesn't edit portals could read it...--Hardvice (talk) 23:39, 28 September 2007 (EDT)
- I rarely (if ever) edit portals. I can check it out later when I'm in front of a computer and see if it makes sense. If not maybe I can offer suggestions or ask questions to help. (Admin 23:57, 28 September 2007 (EDT))
- I'd rather this help was summarized and placed above the edit form, with a link to the full help. It's been confirmed on Bionic Wiki that it is possible to hard-code it there by editing MediaWiki:Common.js, but editing the PHP (EditPage.php) would be a much better approach, imho.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:26, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
- I rarely (if ever) edit portals. I can check it out later when I'm in front of a computer and see if it makes sense. If not maybe I can offer suggestions or ask questions to help. (Admin 23:57, 28 September 2007 (EDT))
Shorter version
Here's a much shorter version:
| Adding to a Character Portal | Adding to a Plot Points Portal |
|---|---|
| When adding to or making a portal depicting individual characters, cast or crew, it is standard to use the PortalCharacter template. | When adding to other portals (ie. for groups and things), it is custom to use the PortalPlotPoints template. |
| Row width percentages in cells/row: 15 (1), 30 (2), 45 (3), 60 (4), 90 (6) | Row width percentages in cells/row: 19 (1), 38 (2), 56 (3) |
When adding a new cell to a portal, remember to organize alphabetically and to keep the same number of cells/row (5 for character portals, 4 for plotpoints). For more detailed help with examples, see Help:Portals.
Please comment asap as I think we should change stop the spamming as quickly as possible. I realize that Help:Editing#Portals or Help:Portals still needs to be made...--MiamiVolts (talk) 03:11, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
- Help:Editing is for general editing help. I'd rather see special topics (like templates and portals and theories) get their own page -- in this case, Help:Portals. Also, I think the shorter version is nice, but probably a little too short. It's still mostly fairly experienced users who edit the portals; I for one appreciate the inclusion of the percentage widths since I suck at even the most basic math. (Actually, I in fact suck at basic arithmetic and dig the more complex stuff ... go figure).--Hardvice (talk) 03:46, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
- Ok, added the percentages.--MiamiVolts (talk) 04:22, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
- I really don't care what version we use. I think mine is too long (and possibly confusing), and I think the one above is too short (and possibly confusing). Can we work on a happy medium that makes it a bit more accessible to the less-experienced user? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 09:15, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
- Imho, the text for re-edits should only be a quick-reference help. Unless you are going through a tutorial, you shouldn't learn everything you need to know about editing a portal on the same page as the text for editing it (that's considered spam as you can't disable it--it always displays on edit). The main help should go in a separate article in the Help namespace. As for expanding the shorter help text above, I don't know anything else that should be added (my preference is to trim it a bit).--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:48, 2 October 2007 (EDT)
- I'm all for trimming what we have currently--especially if Help:Portals exists to go into detail. I'm drawing a creative blank right now on exactly what to put on the template. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:22, 2 October 2007 (EDT)
- Maybe check out this version of the article help on Bionic Wiki. I'm not sure why you are drawing a blank on the template itself.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:01, 3 October 2007 (EDT)
- I'm all for trimming what we have currently--especially if Help:Portals exists to go into detail. I'm drawing a creative blank right now on exactly what to put on the template. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:22, 2 October 2007 (EDT)
- Imho, the text for re-edits should only be a quick-reference help. Unless you are going through a tutorial, you shouldn't learn everything you need to know about editing a portal on the same page as the text for editing it (that's considered spam as you can't disable it--it always displays on edit). The main help should go in a separate article in the Help namespace. As for expanding the shorter help text above, I don't know anything else that should be added (my preference is to trim it a bit).--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:48, 2 October 2007 (EDT)
- I really don't care what version we use. I think mine is too long (and possibly confusing), and I think the one above is too short (and possibly confusing). Can we work on a happy medium that makes it a bit more accessible to the less-experienced user? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 09:15, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
Edit Help Pages
- Do these break like the newpage templates if we add a noincluded usage section and a category? I'm trying to clean out the uncategorized templates as much as possible.--Hardvice (talk) 22:11, 16 November 2007 (EST)
- Don't know. Why don't you test it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:12, 16 November 2007 (EST)
Seems to work fine.Oh, did you remove it before I used it? What happened? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:13, 16 November 2007 (EST)
- Don't know. Why don't you test it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:12, 16 November 2007 (EST)