Talk:Accelerated probability

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Source/Explanation
The Create Your Hero description for Santiago explicitly states that he has the power of accelerated probability.

Accelerated probability?

Is this for the upcoming Destiny webisodes? If so then shouldn't the power be combined with super speed or something (which bugs me; the writers seem to be drifting further and further from the typical "One person, one power" with each new release). -- FlamingTomDude 23:53, 20 November 2008 (EDT)

• Totally agree. Probability should not mean also being able to run fast. - Rybo5000

One of the most powerful abilities?

Technically couldn't a possessor of this ability find the weakness of anything, solve the unsolveable, etc. He would be a valuable asset to the Company, in finding the successful formula or even the best way of targeting evolved humans?

As we know all abilities devlop, for example, Matt Parkman. Perhaps he can manipulate probability like Domino and Black Cat? If he was, let's say, in conflict with Sylar he could alter the probability of Sylar successfully attacking him with any of his abilities to an extraordinary high probability or if he fell out of a plane - he could alter the probability of him surving to 1(1 is the highest number as far as probability is concerned). --ACDC1989 09:06, 12 November 2008 (EST)

• The ability doesn't manipulate probability, just predicts it.

• I checked this ability up on www.activatingevolution.org and Santiago doesnt have Super Human Speed. He has Super Human Reflexes thats why he could avoid being hit by the truck and see how he can escape it. Typos 07:12, 17 November 2008 (EST)
  • A monkey can put all sorts of info there. Intuitive Empath 09:50, 17 November 2008 (EST)
    • To be less crude (no offense, Intuitive Empath) ActivatingEvolution.org is a useless site where anyone can put whatever they like on it. A monkey could indeed put info on there, so I wouldn't trust it with anything. -- FlamingTomDude 1:32, 19 November 2008 (EST)
      • That's what I meant... Intuitive Empath 05:34, 19 November 2008 (EST)

• If this is Kaito Nakamura's ability, this must be the way of how he created the formula...--NiveKJ13 13:47, 22 November 2008 (EST)
  • Who says that Kaito created the formula? -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:34, 22 November 2008 (EST)
    • i dont know, I think Arthur mentioned it in It's Coming episode. Well, yeah, not him exactly, but maybe he helped a little or something lol, i dunno --NiveKJ13 17:54, 22 November 2008 (EST)
      • He said Kaito hid the catalyst, just that. Intuitive Empath 18:01, 22 November 2008 (EST)

My Idea

Hey! I thought of this a while ago.

Mine was slightly different in that time freezes (not literally but for effect) then everything turns green and wireframed. The person then "scans" to find the best possible outcome.

And also coincidentally, my idea also made his ability good as a footballer.

- Rybo5000

User:Shadowulf1 17:46, 22 November 2008 (EST)

"Accelerated probability is the ability to see what choice one should make when confronted with a situation, to predict the outcomes of certain situations, and then to accelerate oneself along that path of causality immediately."

is this accurate, people? If so, then Santiago can choose to a certain degree how he wants things to turn out. He can't alter probability, and can only do feats within his power, but this means he's still a pretty powerful guy. This ability would allow one to see the most beneficial future to Santiago (and presumably was beneficial to Kaito Nakamura when he was alive) but you couldn't directly learn knowledge or answers, it would only speed you along the path of probability that would best benefit you. It also seems to make use of lentation (in which time seems to have slowed down, when in fact the user has sped up, similar to Neo from the Matrix movies). Shadowulf1 17:46, 22 November 2008

• I guess he could dodge bullets with easy. Dave 18:20, 27 November 2008

Inheritance from Santiago's father

In Destiny, Part 3, the serious looking woman tells Santiago he inherited his gift from his father. I think Santiago's father should be listed as sharing the ability... if you inherit something from someone, it means it was also theirs. The woman doesn't say he inherited a gene, she says "gift" and to me that means Santiago's dad had the same gift Santiago has. In addition, the serious looking woman explains the attributes of Santiago's ability in detail and claims she knows of Santiago's abilities because his father worked for her organization as an assassin and they just followed the laws of genetic probabilities. It is also noted that his father's ability allowed his father to always get his mark.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:56, 27 November 2008 (EST)

Enlightning me

Can someone explain to me how accelerated probability extends to lightning? Either the ability is way more haywire than we thought, or it has a deus-ex-machina component. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 11:19, 2 December 2008 (EST)

• I think it's the former. It was definitely a bit of a shock to me as well... I have a theory on how it might be explained: it's speculation, but I think the way it might work is that Edward can speed up air particles around him, such that they become ionized in a focused area (the ball). Once he gets them focused enough, he can direct them onto another person and electrocute the person. If I'm right, I'd very much like to see Daphne performing this trick... the special effects for it were awesome.--MiamiVolts (talk) 13:55, 2 December 2008 (EST)
  • I don't know about that - I certainly hope Edward is a mimic, but AP has so far been kind of a catch-all as it is (so you can see in slow-motion - how does that make you run fast?). Besides, particles can't 'see' the paths, so there's no good reason for them to be able to accelerate along them or whatever the heck they said the power does. --Yamawhata? 16:44, 2 December 2008 (EST)
    • Going super fast and slowing down time for others are basically two ways of saying the same thing, imho. Anyways, Rayne at 9th Wonders had an alternate explanation: that since Edward runs super fast, his body creates a static charge like how friction from rubbing your feet on a carpet can create static charge. And since Edward's body would end up storing so much static electricity, he needs to be able to discharge it and this is one way he can do so. Both his and mine are valid theories, imho.--MiamiVolts (talk) 20:33, 2 December 2008 (EST)
      • Interesting theory... it does make sense, I just think that we shouldn't have to speculate to that point. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 09:08, 3 December 2008 (EST)
        • I didn't watch the webisode but does he move alot before he creates the lightning? If so, perhaps he's building up extreme static? Edit: I probably shoulda read all the comments before speaking.--Riddler 09:24, 3 December 2008 (EST)
      • Static charge makes sense, I guess, but its not really the first thing that jumps to mind when you think of a guy with super speed. Hopefully they have an explanation in mind. --Yamawhata? 17:57, 3 December 2008 (EST)
    • Personally I dislike that Accelerated Probability means super speed and now lightning too. It's all too convenient; once you see the path you get there faster...Okay I can live with that. Edward's byproduct just seems silly, even by Heroes standards. Probability refers to possible outcomes and likely outcomes. Accelerated means faster. Together one would assume that the user could calculate probability a lot faster than a normal person, like Kaito in the deleted scene. I guess accelerated could be interpreted into some form of enhanced speed, but seriously; lightning? Sorry, but I think they've taken it too far.--FlamingTomDude 23:42, 3 December 2008 (EST)
      • I agree. I really hope they have an outstanding explanation for it. I would actually be more willing to accept that Edward is a special case and has two innate abilities - lightning and AP. (that might as well be true if AP produces byproducts as ridiculous as lightning) Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 23:45, 3 December 2008 (EST)

• • • • • Edward's Lightning obviously is much different from Elle's. As well as creating an orange ball of electric energy when he discharged it. The electric animation didn't look like the typical fork shaped bolt Elle and the others use. But regardless I don't see how accelerated probability can give you an electric ability too...